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yeah, that’s what happened.
Det. Sudler:
Positive for... ,
Minkoff:
They couldn’t identify it at that point. And then
the next day they said it was staphylococcus. And
then I think I talked to the coroner the day I found
out there was a positive blood culture. He was
surprised because he hadn’t. . .he hadn’t known about
it. And then I think he talked to the lab and they
.they identified it as staphylococcus. So that
put it together for me.. .1 mean.. .it.. .1.. .that wasn’t my number one choice of bacteria but it looked like. . .like she had an overwhelming bacterial infection. And that. . .1 mean. . .that was enough for me to say okay, that’s why she died. Uh. . .the embolism is sort of.. . sort of.. .you know. . . frosting on the cake so to speak. So now there’s.. .there’s a girl whose background medical information I have, no idea. ...you know.. .she could have all these risk factors. But she’s got a major risk factor when she’s got a clot sitting in the middle of her body and a bacterial infection and it was a battle.
Sgt. Teunis:
Have you ever seen Lisa McPherson as a patient before
this?
Minkoff:
No.
Sgt.; Teunis: Okay. 11mm.. obviously Dr. Johnson works for the Church of Scientology. 11mm. . . and. . . and Lisa Mcpherson was a member of the Church of Scientology. Have you
• ,
ever attended courses at the church?
Minkoff:
Uh Huh. 
Sgt. Teunis:
I’m not understanding the Church of Scientology that
much...so excuse me on this. But does that mean that
you are a member of the Church of Scientology?

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